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February 07, 2008

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Fran  Gillin

I had missed Josh's obit in the NY Times--thanks for posting your comments.

I was actually a post-doc with AT Ganesan in the Genetics dept at Stanford (1967-9!!!) when Josh was chair. Since "Gan" had been Josh's student, I guess Josh was my "scientific grandfather". He was a larger than life character--according to Gan, he filled the room physically, as well as intellectually--as earlier he was quite large--there were stories about collapsed chairs!! The genetics Dept which Josh built was very diverse--ranging from classical bacterial genetics (us) to neurobiology, mammalian cell genetics and exobiology. Josh was writing columns on science for the Washington Post--and wrote about genetic engineering, which I thought then was truly "out there." He was quite the visionary in many respects. He was always cordial and genial to the students (who never wanted to leave) and post-docs. It was a time of great political and social and scientific ferment--and what better place to be than in the midst of it!!

Stan Zahler

Lederberg's papers were always important -- and hard to read. In those days I found it easier to read Monod's papers, or Wollman's, in French, rather than Lederberg's in English.
Maybe the best part of his Nobel work is that he did it as a graduate student. A real boy genius. (He'd graduated from Stuyvesant High School in NYC at the age of 15.)
And he was a good science advisor to many presidents.

Mark O. Martin

I never met Joshua Lederberg. But yes, he was a hero of mine for the reasons you state---Alan Campbell once told me that he believed that Lederberg's early papers had a "Talmudic complexity" to them! I was very fortunate to chat with Esther Lederberg many times while I was in graduate school, and learned a great deal about the history of microbial genetics...from her perspective, anyway! For example, the role that automobile engine pistons played in the development of replica plating.

The comments about a lack of knowledge of history in science resonates very much with me. Whenever I teach introductory cell and molecular biology, I try to lead the students through the "sociology" of how DNA was demonstrated to be the genetic material: the rationale for resistance to the idea, the strange explanation, the final resolution. And, as always, the people behind the research. A lack of knowledge of history is a real problem in the sciences, Santayana's warning applies to many fields, including our own.

We are all increasingly specialized, narrowed, compartmentalized, and "collaborat-ized." There are relatively few broadly trained microbial biologists left. I well remember taking the Microbial Diversity course, and having some of the older professors just look an environmental plate and tell me what was there! The spirit of C.B van Niel continues to live on, even if that spirit is growing quieter. The explosion in "microbial diversity" the past few years has given a great boost to those ideas.

I often try to convince myself that microbiology departments need to join the liberal arts and have a "diversity studies" focus. Well, at least from my own perspective!

john dennehy

This younger one revered him too.
http://tinyurl.com/23wlhx

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