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April 10, 2008

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ecoli

It's an interesting find because there are bacteria that can metabolize man-made antibiotics. Does this suggest that metabolic processes in bacteria have evolved to be relatively non-specific? After all, Man-made antibiotics are, for the most part, analogs of 'natural' molecules.
From what I know about biochemistry, it would depend on the molecule, so perhaps we can use this general statement.

Paul Orwin

I think it reflects something else, which is the degree to which researchers isolate themselves as they specialize. People who study antibiotic mechanisms and resistance often come from the med micro community, which rarely if ever pays attention to the microbial physiology and ecology community (I'm sure that there are many exceptions to this overgeneralization). Certainly when I worked on staph toxins, I paid no attention to studies on bioremediation and biodegradation, unless forced to in a class. However, if I had, I would have recognized that bacteria in nature are wondrously capable of extracting maximal value from potential substrates.
So I guess my point is that if someone were to synthesize the insights of these two areas (i.e. resistance happens and carbon sources get utilized) they would arrive at the notion that organisms in the soil should utilize antibiotics as carbon sources. It is certainly still an interesting finding that it is widespread in soil.

elio schaechter

Please note, ecoli's blog URL is
http://blogs.scienceforums.net/ecoli

To comment on the comments by ecoli and Paul, it's of course been known for ages that bacteria can metabolize antibiotics (think for example of beta-lactamases). What is novel here is that bacteria can grow on products of such degradation. In truth this is not terribly surprising, given the bacterial metabolic repertoire, but it had not been appreciated before. And Paul, I also doubt that this has any clinical relevance.

ecoli

I agree with Paul Orwin above me. Why are we surprised that microbes can naturally metabolize antibiotics, when they can evolve resistance so quickly in vivo?

(I reiterate this in my own blog).

stan zahler

The authors put very stringent restrictions on their search for antibiotiphages. Requiring them to use the chemicals as sole C source seems harsh. I'll bet that pairs (or trios) of bugs, one to break the first tough chemical bond, others to use the breakdown products, would give even higher frequencies of utilization. It's a very interesting study, isn't it!
-- stan zahler

Paul Orwin

I was surprised that this finding was surprising! I thought it was fairly clear that in the environment, there are lots of bacteria making antibiotics, and others that can break them down and/or resist them. We already know that various resistance mechanisms evolved in the soil and are still there, in the bacteria that make the drugs, and in others through HGT! I'm glad to see data that supports the idea, and I think the extent of antibiotiphagia (nice word!) is perhaps surprising to many.
I can't see any way that this doesn't affect clinical use of antibiotics. First, we know that there is plenty of movement of bacteria between soil and host organisms. Second, we know there is plenty of gene transfer going on in both environments. Therefore, there is a very high probability that within a soil microbial population, there is a potential pathogen (Burk and Pseudo being pretty strong contenders) that eats antibiotics for breakfast - so when the new antibiotic is introduced in the clinic, it just starts the process of enriching the host associated population for this strain. It also makes me think a lot about the "futility" of antibiotic development - we'll probably never develop something that bacteria can't resist/eat. On the bright side, it means lots of potential work for researchers!!

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