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March 30, 2009

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Britt

Bioluminescence is a fascinating and vexing topic. We know of several different and unrelated groups of fungi that do it, but why? Of course, attracting insects for spore dessemination is always suggested but it's not likely the reason, at least not for all situations. Plus, with the incredibly acute sensories of insects (tactile, olfactory, chemo-, etc), it seems unlikely that that they "need" to rely on vision. I know that sounds teleological, but no more so that having to find a reason for glowing in the dark. Maybe it is a shunt system...or maybe it just is. Who knows?

In fungi, some produce sporophores (mushrooms) that glow, but in others it's the mycelium that glows...while buried somewhere. Some argue that it attracts wood ingesting insects...I say that if you have to get that close to see the stuff, you likely already knew it was there via some other method.

After about a 10 second search, I couldn't find any previous writings on the topic by Elio...can someone hook me up with a link?

Also, the journal I edit, Fungi magazine, will publish an article on the topic in the near future. If any reader out there has info on the topic to share, I would GREATLY appreciate it, as I'm always trying to learn more. Thanks!

Paul Orwin

I'm really glad that you've brought this up, since nematode-bacteria interactions have become an interest of mine recently (and no, I'm pretty much completely ignorant about them, but I've never let that stop me). The literature on C. elegans as a model of infection is very interesting, although still very new. I've been thinking about how these interactions actually occur in the environment, and how that relates to the emergence of virulence (I think of legionella and mycobacteria in amoeba, and how that relates to their growth in macrophages). The added layer of complexity with insect-worm-bacteria in this complex dance makes my head spin!
Luminescence is interesting for many reasons too, of course, and I'm glad Mark reminded me that it was right here that I read about the possible role(s) of that phenotype besides the marine symbiont scenario. I'm not sure why there has to be a single reason for having a gene, though...I don't see why it can't be different things to different bacteria (a metabolic shunt, a tool for helping out fish/squid, a way to improve transmission, or maybe just something they picked up). I'd say that if we think about it, though, there are ways to approach the problem, especially now that strain genotyping can be done very rapidly and precisely.
For example, we know that there is a non-luminscent symbiont, but are there non-luminescent variants of Photorhabdus? what is their geographic range? I find it even odder that you can't find them outside the worm or the insect? Am I reading too much into the last bit?

Mark O. Martin


I have heard that hypothesis, about horizontal transmission via predation.

Many years ago, I worked a bit in bacterial bioluminescence with Vibrio harveyi. This wonderful little critter did not have a specific symbiosis, as seen with Vibrio fischeri with squid or the flashlight fish. V. harveyi, in fact, is commonly found in the gut of marine creatures (as well as planktonically). What is the function of bacterial bioluminescence in bacteria that colonize the gut of fish? Pretty dark in there, right? There was evidence that (sorry about this) fecal pellets produced by the fish were bioluminescent. And fish tend to like to eat "glowing items." Hence the horizontal transfer of these gut inhabitants from fish to fish. Or so we all thought.

I would not be at all surprised that glowing insect carcasses attract predators. Yet the level of luminescence caused by Photorhabdus is quite low!

This brings us all back to the true function of bioluminescence, as Elio has explored earlier in this blog. Is it metabolic? Display only? It's a fascinating if vexing topic.

It is interesting to note that Photorhabdus is the only terrestrial bioluminescent bacterium described. My guess is that, as with bioluminescent marine bacteria, it would be possible to find isolates producing VERY little light.

Merry, that was a lovely essay. I love this topic!

And see? I avoided the obvious puns throughout!

Bob Blumenthal

Any chance the luminescent insect corpses attract dusk-feeding or nocturnal animals, improving geographic spread of the ready-to-emerge IJs? Maybe there's some indirect selection here...

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Hi Bob,
My friend Merry is better qualified to comment but your idea seems very reasonable. Look for the light.
Elio

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Interesting possibility, Bob. The information that I have on this point comes from a 2008 paper by Peat & Adams, available here:

http://mmbio.byu.edu/faculty/bja43/papers/products/adams/Peat2008Symbiosis.pdf

They write: "Photorhabdus, the bacterial symbiont of the nematode Heterorhabditis is typically confined to the gut of its host and the hemocoel of larval insects, with both hosts inhabiting soil environments. As the phase of Photorhabdus that glows is typically only found in insect cadavers, there is no intuitive benefit of glowing to attract prey or distract a predator, as all necessary resources for survival and reproduction are present in the insect cadaver."

Thus, they do not consider the factor that you suggested, i.e., improving geographic spread. However, assuming the glowing cadaver is buried within the soil, even that usefulness seems less likely. But who knows...

Merry

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