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May 11, 2009

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Nathan Myers

How does C. benefit its host? You might ask, what value does a blackmailer provide his or her victim? "That's a nice ribosome you've got there; it'd be a shame if anything should happen to it."

I haven't seen cases of intracellular blackmail identified. This might just be because I'm pig-ignorant. Or, is it a case of the dog not barking? A blackmailer never actually does anything, normally. Maybe there's a gene in C. that's never seen expressed.

Robert G. E. Murray

When is a bacterium not a bacterium? A first order response might be when it can no longer be recognised by structure and chemistry that it is bacterial in nature. Most (?all) cases involve existence in unrelated living cells and you rightly ask the question of exclusion: When does this pared down bacterial cell become an organelle? Presumably this state arises when it can go and grow nowhere else but an unrelated cytosol and has lost the essentials for being a fully functional bacterium. This one seems more than half-way to being an organelle!

Mark O. Martin


Great post, Elio! One of my favorite topics....

What kind of "omics" would the best approach? I suspect transcripto-somics, for convenience---the ability to easily remove/exclude eukaryotic mRNA from the equation is attractive. But "all of the above" may well be the approach used. Oh, and genomics of the symbiont, provided it can be isolated exclusively---this example you cite has such unusual morphology that I would worry a bit.

The whole issue of establishment of symbioses over time is fascinating. We generally study symbiotic associations with minimal integration (say, the Vibrio fischeri - Euprymna scolopes symbiosis) or extremely extensive integration (your own example above, well on the way to become faux-mitochondria).

KW Jeon of the University of Tennessee has long studied a phenomenon that happened a few decades ago in his lab: while investigating amoebae, Dr. Jeon had a "bacterial infection" of his stock cultures. The survivors seemed to integrate Legionella like bacteria into their cytoplasm, and have now become obligate. Here is a recent review:

Jeon KW. (2004). "Genetic and physiological interactions in the amoeba-bacteria symbiosis." J Eukaryot Microbiol. 51:502-508.

Abstract: Amoebae of the xD strain of Amoeba proteus that arose from the D strain by spontaneous infection of Legionella-like X-bacteria are now dependent on their symbionts for survival. Each xD amoeba contains about 42,000 symbionts within symbiosomes, and established xD amoebae die if their symbionts are removed. Thus, harmful infective bacteria changed into necessary cell components. As a result of harboring X-bacteria. xD amoebae exhibit various physiological and genetic characteristics that are different from those of symbiont-free D amoebae. One of the recent findings is that bacterial symbionts control the expression of a host's house-keeping gene. Thus, the expression of the normal amoeba sams gene (sams1) encoding one form of S-adenosylmethionine synthetase is switched to that of sams2 by endosymbiotic X-bacteria. Possible mechanisms for the switching of sams genes brought about by endosymbionts and its significance are discussed.

Elio, I wonder if Dr. Jeon would be interested in an essay for STC?

I can't help but wonder if this sort of thing could be "set up" and allowed to happen again in the lab (unless this case was purely luck!). In that case, data for the "pre-association" and "post-association" forms could be studied over time, as Rich Lenski has done with bacterial evolution in the laboratory, freezing "snapshots" of cultures at various time points in the process.

This could be relevant to far more than the study of symbioses, as many pathogens need to make similar genetic and biochemical adaptations. But what granting agency would support that kind of "blue sky" project?

Again, a great topic.

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