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March 11, 2013

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bks

Speaking of what one might like to see, is there somewhere one might one find a collection of resinless electron micrographs (or equivalent) showing the nuclear and cytoplasmic "skeletons" of protists?

--bks

Nathan Myers

I wonder about this prebiotic soup. Wasn't it saturated with elemental or weakly-bound iron? Is there anyone who knows anything about the properties of proteins and amino acid chains in iron-saturated solution?

Jan replies:
Some thoughts:
- historical: we all can speculate about 'prebiotic' soups and their compositions; there is no way to experimentally go back in history; but the speculations must conform to the 'chemistry' of iron as we know it today.
- chemistry of iron: very complicated in aqueous solutions (depending on pH, temperature etc); I would suspect that elemental iron would not survive prebiotic conditions (particularly the transition involving the condensation of steam to create oceans as Hadean Earth was cooling and coming into being, when it would react to give iron oxides and hydrogen...
- from an inorganic point of view Fe ions in + 2 and +3 oxidation states tend to hydrolyze as pH goes up into a variety of 'iron-hydroxy' inorganic polymers until it forms large precipitates of iron hydroxy-oxides...
- from an organic point of view, Fe being a transition metal ion, has a great capacity to form complexes, example with EDTA, so it can be made soluble at neutral and alkaline pH by a variety of complexation agents
- so the question raises a great point (mechanism) of what and how 'prebiotic organic' molecules (presumably derived from HCN hydrolyzed oligomers) were present that could complex iron into a 'useful' form for a life to emerge; this scenario would actually provide a very reasonable alternative to the hydrothermal vents scenario of iron 'appearance' in life's molecules.
- a great comment

Mark O. Martin

Now *that* is a really thought-provoking post! My students will be reading and discussing this in the Fall. Bravo!

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